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The presentations, interviews and podcasts on this web page appear with the newest first. Further videos and podcasts featuring John Launer, including full length presentations on ‘Conversations Inviting Change’ are also available at conversationsinvitingchange.com<\/a>. John’s recordings related to his biography of Sabina Spielrein appear on the separate web page about the book on this site.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde”<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

This online lecture is one that John Launer has given annually for the last few years as part of the Science and Literature module for Masters students at the Institute of Science, Tokyo. In it, John explores the literary, historical, psychological and medical background to the famous novel by Robert Louis Stevenson. For Part one of his lecture click here. <\/a>For Part Two, click here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Managing Uncertainty in Medicine<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

This podcast features a conversation between John Launer and Zaid Al-Najjar for the NHS Practitioner Health podcast series on Wellbeing. Zaid and John cover uncertainty in providing care to patients, the importance of asking open questions, burnout and uncertainty, and ways to manage uncertainty, including reflective practice. To listen to the podcast, click here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fighting for the soul of general practice: the impact of ear wax.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Jens Foell and Rupal Shah are GPs and accredited trainers of “Conversations Inviting Change.” They are passionate about sustaining equitable and relational ways of working in general practice, as set out in their book “Fighting for the Soul of General Practice: the algorithm will see you now.”<\/a> In this podcast made in November 2025 and facilitated by their publisher James Campbell, Jens and Rupal hold a conversation with John Launer about the unromantic but highly symbolic subject of ear wax. They discuss how its semi-humorous and abject status as a bodily substance has allowed medics, managers and politicians to degrade, privatise or abolish services for treating it, leading to serious impairment to the lives of the elderly and poor in particular. You can listen to their conversation here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A conversation with John Launer<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

In this short podcast interview recorded in November 2025 with Damian Tarnopolsky from the Narrative-Based Medicine Lab in Toronto, John Launer talks about his career and the state of the narrative-based medicine field. John shares examples from his own career where he’s witnessed the power of narrative at work in clinical settings, reminding us about the importance of allowing stories to develop, flow, and breathe in order to see patients as human beings first He also shares thoughts on the possibilities offered by AI in general practice and how it might be a narrative tool. You can listen to the podcast here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Sailing the 7 C’s: a podcast on the origins and development of “Conversations Inviting Change.”<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

In a new podcast made in February 2025 in the popular series \u201cThe Systemic Way,\u201d family therapists Sezer Farhi and Julie Berentsen interview John Launer about how CIC arose from teaching systemic and narrative ideas and skills to doctors and health professionals – and how it has developed for over 30 years. To listen, click here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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“Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.” Presentation to Department of Liberal Arts, Tokyo Institute of Technology.<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

John Launer was invited to lecture to Masters students in science and engineering in April 2024 in an elective module on “Science and Literature.” He chose as his subject Robert Louis Stevenson’s novel “Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde”, looking particularly at its depiction of one doctor’s futile search for perfection and the dangers to which this gives rise. You can watch the lecture here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Seminar at Institute of Medical Humanities, Durham University<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

In March 2024. John Launer ran a seminar on ‘Conversations Inviting Change’ for the Institute of Medical Humanities at Durham University. As well as outlining the history and development of CIC as a form of narrative practice, John explained how the approach is used in health care consultations with patients and supervision for colleagues, with video clips demonstrating both. Link to watch it here<\/a>. (1 hour)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Presentation to European Narrative Medicine Society: ‘Narrative Medicine and Reflective Practice’<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

In this talk given in October 2022 to a distinguished audience including Rita Charon and Arthur Frank, John Launer presented his new book ‘Reflective Practice in Medicine and Multiprofessional Health Care’ and laid out a manifesto connecting reflective practice with narrative medicine and narrative practice. John’s presentation starts around 07:30 and ends at 44:00. This is followed around 45:00 by a reading with Maria Victoria Bovo of a script from some narrative-based supervision that took place in 2021. The discussion is started by Rita Charon around 1:02:00 and Arthur Frank speaks 1at 1:15:40. There is a commentary from Susan Magalhaes as discussant from 1:24:55 followed by further discussion at 1:50:09. Link to watch it here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Physio Matters podcast on ‘Conversations Inviting Change’<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Tom Jesson, a UK trained physiotherapist now based in the US, interviewed John Launer in 2019 the Physio Matters podcast series. To listen, click here <\/a> (77 minutes)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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The importance of being wrong: address at McGill University Medical School<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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John was invited to give the address at the ‘white coat ceremony’ at McGill University Medical School in Montreal, Canada in 2016, to mark the passage of that year’s cohort of pre-clinical students into their training on the wards. For his subject, he chose ‘The importance of being wrong’. The introduction to his presentation starts at 29’54 on the video here<\/a>. (20 minutes)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Roger Kneebone interviewing John Launer<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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This podcast features an interview with John Launer by Roger Kneebone, professor of surgical education at Imperial College London and one of the most innovative thinkers in the medical field in the United Kingdom. Roger interviews John about the ideas underlying ‘Conversations Inviting Change’ and its development, as part of his ‘Countercurrent’ series of podcasts. In the podcast, John and Roger compare their experiences of teaching and writing. You can listen to the podcast here.<\/a> (42 minutes)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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